Subject: Re: Lavenda Van Schaick Declaration From: David Mayo Date: 1996/05/27 Message-Id: <4odkjo$qoc@light.lightlink.com> Sender: electra@light.lightlink.com Organization: Art Matrix - Lightlink Electra Gateway v2.4 Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 26 May 1996 18:12:53 GMT, smokesig@ix.netcom.com (Neal Hamel) wrote: >On 25 May 1996 21:58:52 -0400, David Mayo wrote: > >[ snip ] > > > >Fascinating . . . > [...] >> >>(There is a plausible explanation, in my mind, for LaVenda incorrectly >>alleging that Clearwater was the Scn Headquarters, at the time of this >>affadavit. I will wait to see whether anyone comes up with this reason >>and post the answer in a few days.) Time is up. Here's my guess. In the early 1980s, (from about 1982 to 1985) there was a push to get a Grand Jury investigation into Scn going in Clearwater. That, in and of itself, was probably a good idea. There were valid reasons such as the staged "hit and run" frame up on the Mayor and planting Scn attorney Merril Vannier on his staff, etc.. Flynn was one of the main persons pushing for this Grand Jury investigation. I think the inaccurate assertions from LaVenda's affadavit (that Clearwater was the headquarters of Scn, that pc folders were shipped there to be culled and that orders to harass people such as LaVenda originated from the headquarters in Clearwater), were intended to add impetus to that attempt, though inaccurately. Flynn would have to have known that Clearwater was not the Scn headquarters. >> > > >OK, David, you are gaining valuable points towards the coveted "Lord >Peter Wimsey" award. Your facts are unassailable. (Everyone take >note, the above paragraph has, in a nutshell, the command structure of >the GO. The occasional bypassing of GO WW from the GO US directly to >MSH and LRH was an operational necessity brought about by the presence >of LRH/Flag in Clearwater. ) > The presence of LRH/Flag in Clearwater was temporary and short lived. Here are the locations and approx. dates: LRH/MSH/headquarters aboard ship in the Carribean (last port, Freeport, Grand Bahama) until September 1975. LRH/MSH/headquarters to Daytona, FL in Sep 1975 to Nov/Dec 1975. LRH/MSH/headquarters to Dunedin, FL (near Clearwater) Nov/Dec 1975 to about mid 1976 (?) and then they moved to La Quinta, CA until April 1979. MSH moved to Los Angeles, CA during 1978? (but maintained rooms and an office at La Quinta also). LRH and Scn headquarters, now WDC, (= CMO INT) moved to Hemet and Gilman Hot Springs, CA. (LRH left Hemet with the Broekers in February 1980.) >The theory that Fishman's story was concocted by his reading the >FACTnet materials, also suggested elsewhere by the currently >beleaguered D. Erlich, is intriguing. > >Point #1 about Gary Klingler is strong evidence to back the theory of >FACTnet as the source for Fishman's experiences. I, personally, >believe it is the explanation. (n.b. Klingler was originally from Las >Vegas before his posting to the US GO. There were two Klingler >brothers and unless I have gotten them confused, Gary was a key person >in the legal restructuring of the CofS in the late 70s.) Yes, Gary Klingler was in GO Legal. His brother's name was Rick Klingler. > [...] > >I am also intrigued regarding your speculation that there is someone >who put Fishman up to this. Do you also think that this person was persons (plural) (based on the different styles, moods and information in his posts as if they were written by different people) >manipulating Fishman when these charges first surfaced before >Fishman's imprisonment? No, definitely not before the imprisonment. I'd guess, sometime during the last year, maybe around August 1995. Just a guess, mind you. His recent collaboration with Koos in the last month is, I think, relatively non-significant. [p&m'd] Rev. David Mayo "So many have fallen, yet so far left to go ... " (finger for key) PGP ID: 1024/4D5EE559 1996/01/04 PGP Fingerprint: 0D 69 92 87 79 2F 38 72 FE 03 CE 51 31 D5 6D E9 ***************************************************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMapKmOmCyCdNXuVZAQE3LAP/Z2BRt81kdfzG0PmS+xjYYzsIiaUf76Ge BpBc5hBpFzcucyOSFE+UaRIN3KvCZYMo08GRp0ts5jiHhyXvX5D47Lok6iOEB2cI 6+jj5fDn9yMe7iDl+4Vum3ZO22RiNjOMG/NLQ6VR0P7RH6CBKvCxs8HCUFTho6S6 dwi1pTsAvYs= =/Vlu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----