Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology From: pilot@hiddenplace.com (The Pilot) Subject: Super Scio Archive - <8/9> posts of Aug 97 Date: 25 Aug 1997 14:00:19 POST8.TXT SUPER SCIO OTHER PILOT POSTS OF AUGUST 1997 (tech posts from August are in POST9.txt) ======================== Contents (Headers): Subj : Super Scio - PILOT ARCHIVES TO BE POSTED Subj : Super Scio - R2-45 Subj : Super Scio - More about Ruth Minshull Subj : Super Scio - OT Bug Fryer Into The Fire Subj : Super Scio - Re Bluffing the E-Meter Subj : Super Scio -To R Freeland re Splinter Groups Subj : Super Scio - ABOUT SUPER POWER Subj : Super Scio - TO SASSIE10 (or Ron's Amigo) Subj : Super Scio - Re OT Powers (answering Lee Reynolds) Subj : Super Scio - TO DAVID MISCAVIAGE Subj : Super Scio Humor - Scientology Jokes Subj : Super Scio - The Valley-Burbank Org Subj : Super Scio - To M Richter about Clears ======================== Subj : Super Scio - PILOT ARCHIVES TO BE POSTED PILOT ARCHIVES TO BE POSTED: I am planning to post a complete set of my posting archives to the alt.clearning.technology newsgroup. This will consist of 8 or 9 files which will contain every post that I have issued except for the Super Scio book itself and the webpage, both of which are already available from multiple sources on the net. It will be a bit more than half a megabyte. It will only go to ACT to avoid overloading the already heavy ARS newsfeed. The message headers will begin with "SUPER SCIO ARCHIVES". This is advanced warning so that people can either look for it or filter it out (if they are pulling a complete ACT newsfeed). I am doing this for a number of reasons. I put this together because a number of friends who are not on the net asked me for copies of my posts and it gave me an opportunity to clean up my hard drive while retaining a copy of what I have written. Some of the Scientology lurkers might like the same collection. And I noticed that some websites are collecting pilot posts and it seemed like this would make it easier for them. It might also help those poor OSA lurkers who are scrambling to keep up with what I am doing. And this is my temporary solution to all of the pleas from clearl to please email them my posts. I'm staying away from e-mail right now for security reasons. By collecting everything together, it will at least make it easier for them to handle the material convieniently. Everything I'm posting this week will be in the last file or two of this archive set so that somebody could just place the whole thing on clearl in one easy move if so desired. Hopefully somebody will dump these archive files into the pilot section of Homer's archive. And maybe the American Freezone website will put them up on a web page. I also noticed that the news server propogation on my last series of posts was very poor, with some files not making it onto some servers or appearing after long intervals (I "post" everything all at once over the span of a minute or two). This archive post should help fill in the gaps for anyone who is interested. Best, The Pilot ======================== Subj : Super Scio - R2-45 ABOUT R2-45 Back in July, lepton@panix.com (Mike O'Connor) asked: > Subject: Re: What is R2-45? was Re: Scientology myths >Hi! I have a question for you... Is the order below a joke? Is the order >below a forgery? Is the order below a lie? What I heard is that this >document was siezed by the FBI in a raid on the cult offices, is that >true? Tell me about the order below, in which L. Ron Hubbard, dead founder >of the thriving cult of greed and power, instructs in his SACRED SCRIPTURE >to use the R2-45 procedure on some persons he deems to be suppressive. >Thanks! > >++++++++++++ SACRED CULT SCRIPTURE +++++++++++++ > > HCO ETHICS ORDER > > >To: Those Concerned No. 30 INT > E/O No. 28 INT added to >From: The Founder > >Subject: RACKET EXPOSED 6th March 1968 >(BPI and goes in Auditor) > > POLLY STATHIS > PETER GOODWIN > JIM STATHIS > PETER KNIGHT > MRS. KNIGHT > NORA GOODWIN > RON FROST > MARGARET FROST > NINA COLLINGWOOD > FREDA GAIMAN > FRANK MANLEY > MARY ANN TAYLOR > GEORGE WATERIDGE > >are hereby declared Suppressive Persons for pretending to have and >distribute forged and altered "Upper Level Materials" which were of a >Research nature and not for distribution. > >All Certificates and Awards are cancelled. > >1. Having stolen or illegally procured these dangerous materials > (at the instigation of a Psychiatrist) these persons did plot to > misuse them to cause Insanity and Death. > >2. False report for money that they would furnish the real materials. > >3. They are declared Enemies of mankind, the planet and all life. > >4. They are fair game. > >5. No amnesty may ever cover them. > >6. If they ever come to a Qual Division they are to be run on reverse > processes. > >7. Any Sea Org member contacting any of them is to use Auditing > Process R2-45. > >8. The Criminals Prosecution Bureau is to find any and all crimes in > their pasts and have them brought to court and prison. > >The Public Distribution of False or Forbidden or Dangerous Data is a >Suppressive Act and a High Crime. > > L. RON HUBBARD > Founder > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >-Mike The R2-45 process included in "Creation of Human Ability" route 2 was most definitely a joke when it was issued. I remember seeing the above Ethics Order when it came out, although it has been a long time and I can't guarantee the list of names or the exact wording. But I remember being shocked at the way that R2-45 was mentioned. It certainly didn't look like it was meant as a joke. I remember discussing it with a number of other staff members at that time. We concluded that it was not intended to be taken literally but was intended to convey how serious the situation was. But we were not Sea Org members and so that specific point didn't apply to us anyway. This is the only time that I ever saw R2-45 mentioned in a non-joking manner. In retrospect, without the blinders on, this order is a real horror. But even at the time, I remember having a bad feeling about it. The following year (1969), I did a "Doubt Formula" about my involvement with Scientology. I had about a hundred "bad indicators" (negative factors) related to the organization, policy, and the sea org. This Ethics order was one of them. I also had about a hundred posative factors concerning the tech, auditing, spiritual enlightenment, and the expressed goals of the subject. I finally realized that I was mixing apples and oranges. There was Tech which I considered to be a very posative thing. And there was Policy which I considered to be suppressive. I decided to tolerate the organization for the sake of the technology. But I never again trusted any policy or orders nor did I go out of my way to obey any of them although I made a point of knowing policy very well for defensive reasons. Does anybody know the real details of what the above list of people actually did and what happened subsequently? Did any Sea Org members at the time take this order literally and try to implement it? Best, The Pilot ======================== Subj : Super Scio - More about Ruth Minshull CONTINUING THE RUTH MINSHULL DISCUSSION On 8 July 97, martinh@islandnet.com (Martin Hunt) did some thorough research and posted a list of her books. > There's 8 books listed by her in the booklist: > > *Como escoger a su gente. Minshull, Ruth. 1977. This is "How to Choose Your People" translated into Spanish. > Free Money!: how to win sweepstakes - according to the judges. > Minshull, Ruth. SAA (Scientology Ann Arbor) Publishing, Northport, > Mich. 1985. Not really a Scientology book. > How to Choose Your People. Minshull, Ruth. SAA (Scientology Ann > Arbor), Ann Arbor, Mich. 1972, 1979. Her second Scientology book. A nice beginners replacement for Hubbard's "Science of Survival". > Logic Puzzles. Minshull, Ruth. SAA (Scientology Ann Arbor) > Publishing, Ann Arbor, Mich. 1980. ISBN: 093-792-2005 (Notes: > "Includes instructions for beginners, solving charts and answers. > Puzzles which may be used as an introduction to logical thinking.") Again not really Scientology. > *Milagros para el desayuno. Minshull, Ruth. 1977. This is Miracles for Breakfast translated into Spanish. > Miracles for Breakfast: a Startling New Approach to Raising > Children. Minshull, Ruth. SAA (Scientology Ann Arbor), Ann > Arbor, Mich. 1968, 1972. Her first and most popular Scientology book. > Secrets of Making Layouts for Quick Printing, the. Minshull, > Ruth. SAA (Scientology Ann Arbor) Publishing, Ann Arbor, Mich. 1982. > ISBN: 093-792-2064 Obviously not a Scientology book. > Ups and Downs. Minshull, Ruth. SAA (Scientology Ann Arbor) > Publishing, Ann Arbor, Mich. 1976. 104 pages. ("The Application series: > 3. `A Dianetics publication.' Subject: Emotions. Scientology.") Her third and final Scientology book. The PTS/SP course is still called the "Ups and Downs course" thanks to her coining the phrase. Note that this one dates from 1976. > * not too sure about the Spanish titles; are these by the same > Ruth Minshull, or another one? See above. > The booklist is at: > http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~av282/books.htm Basically she did 3 Scientology books from 1968 to 1976 and then did some revisions and translations. Sometime around 1980, give or take a year or two, they pulled her stuff out of the Scientology bookstores. This was at the time of the great purges and power strugles in the Church. The pretended reason was that her books contained out-tech. In practice, it was only that some things had changed a bit and the books were slightly out of date. They certainly don't pull Hubbard's books out of the bookstores even though the processes are no longer current. Really they were just eliminating another opinion leader who might make trouble. She was, after all, the only other author of technical Scientology books that was still being sold in the org bookstores at that time and people might have listened if she complained about some of the things that were going on. The 3 later books seem to be things that were innocuous enough to keep her from getting in trouble while trying to make some money as a writer. She seems to have kept a low profile. I don't even know if she's still alive or which side of the fence she is on now. My guess (based on no data) would be that she has been sitting on the fence for a long long time. Best, The Pilot ======================== Subj : Super Scio - OT Bug Fryer Into The Fire OT BUG FYRER: OUT OF THE PAN AND INTO THE FIRE From: Roland on Fri, 11 Jul 1997 >Subject: OTs and Cockroaches >Message-ID: <33C606B0.2666@NOSPAM_netcomuk.co.uk> > It strikes me as strange. If OTs can fry bugs with their minds then why > was the flagship Appollo overrun with cockroaches and why is Flag in > Florida overrun with cockroaches. Why don't the best of the OT VIIIs > just go out and fry 'em? Could it be that the cockroaches have developed > an immunity from the postulates of OTs in much the same way as they have > developed immunity from pesticides? If this is the case then wouldn't it > logically follow that cockroaches are more OT than OTs? In fact a single > cockroach is more OT than all the OTs at Flag put together. There are > tens of thousands of cockroached there. What if they developed a small > amount of intelligence between them and decided to rule the world, > destroying any who would oppose them with concerted sooper-dooper OT > powerz. > > Perhaps they are in charge of Flag now and have been for some time, > intending the weakling mindless robots there to leave them tasty snacks > lying around in the rooms. > > Roland Very Well Done! Just Imagine: The roaches hiding in the auditing rooms learned all the OT process. And because they have a communal society, they don't put any stops on the line about needing money or anything. So they co-audit each other into super beings. Then they tellepathically take over Ron and the Sea Org to make sure that the human beings will never do the same and become a threat to them. It would explain a lot. All the viscousness and stupidity would really be coming from the Sea Org's secret roach masters. Not just tasty snacks but "roachen uber alles". It would make a fantastic science fiction movie. "The Day of the Roaches". You'd crack open somebody's head and thousands of roaches would come pouring out. --------- Putting humor aside, it is a very good question. I know of a number of cases where a bug was either fried or made to move around precisely under somebody's control. The only cases I know are of trained auditors doing it rather than OTs. I only know of one story where an attempt was made to handle more than a single bug. This was related to me by someone who was an old timer, auditor, and staff member. I heard it under circumstances where it was unlikely that the person was trying to impress me or sell me anything, so I'm inclined to believe it. He was living in New York at the time and working on staff. Because of the low staff wages, he had an apartment in an old roach infested tenemant where the bathroom was down the hall. One night he was pissed off at the roaches and in a keyed out state, so he began "zapping them". They would jump in the air and turn around and scurry away under the door and he would tell them to "get out of here and never come back". He did this to every roach in sight (quite a few) and suddenly there were no roaches in view for the first time since he'd moved in. A bit later he went down the hall to the john. When he came out, he says that there must have been 5,000 roaches between him and his apartment door, all lined up in rows and stareing at him. He freeked out and left the building, spending the night at the org and sleeping on the floor of one of the auditing rooms (a common practice at that time). When he went back the next day, things were back to normal and he never tried zapping a roach again. The moral of the story? My view of it is that you can't treat mental abilities in the same mechanical way as physics. You are dealing with life and theta on a more intimate basis and you are going to run into higher laws like the balance of nature. There is a lot of wishful thinking among Scientologists about the state of OT. If they had an OT who could move objects by postulate, and he screamed at somebody to get the stats up, I can pretty much guarantee that he would involentarily make an ashtray or something fly up in the air and hit himself in the head with it. Trying to kill somebody at a distance is just asking for it. The odds are that you would make the beam bounce back and fry yourself instead. The gross and harmful behaviour that is often manifested by Sea Org members is a guarantee that they have no OT powers to speak of. Best, The Pilot ======================== Subj : Super Scio - Re Bluffing the E-Meter BEATING THE E-METER On Aug 5, "Alec" wrote > Subject: Bluffing the E-Meter >Ralph Hilton wrote in article <33fcb329.27152985@news.atnet.at>... > >>On Mon, 04 Aug 1997 21:50:03 GMT, teddy@skylink.net (Ted Mayett (KoX)) >>wrote: >> >>>On 4 Aug 1997 19:58:42 GMT, "BigErn" >>>wrote: <>> >>>>leny wrote in article ><5s0j98$4ic$1@skat.usc.edu>... >>>>> As for beating a security check, there are only two ways to beat a sec >>>>> check; be so low on the responsibility scale that the meter does not >>>>> read or getting an auditor who can't read a meter. >>>>> >>>>> Just for the record. > >Aux Contraire, mein Herr, > >There are lots of responses here from people who are guessing they can >beat the e-meter--and a couple of former scienos who feel that it can't be >W LRH even explains one trick that works very well. Of course he is warning the auditors to watch out for it, but it works anyway. It is for the PC to think of something else, and especially to think of something that the PC knows will cause the meter to FN. Another way is to run the charge off of an item solo before you get sec checked on it. If you do get caught by surprise and an undesirable question reads, you can say that you are protesting and spot the momement when you went clear or something similar so that your statement FNs. Or you can get off a minor overt instead of a major one and force an FN at that point. Best is to be certain that what you have done is not an overt. This may actually be greater responsibility rather than irresposibility. For example, the real overt might be disconnecting from somebody instead of remaining connected to a friend who has been declared suppressive. A skilled auditor can always beat the E-meter if he wants to. Ron has even said on a tape (sorry, I don't remember which one) that you can't pull a withhold from a trained auditor unless he feels like letting you do it. Normally, an auditor such as myself who is getting audited by somebody else WANTS the E-meter to read accurately and does as much as he can to make it easier for the person who is running the session to get good reads on him. After all, you are getting audited to find out more about yourself and handle areas of mental charge. So you do things like paying careful attention to what an auditor with weak TRs is asking so that the meter will read anyway. This business of being forced to get a sec check which is not auditing and which is aimed at protecting the org instead of helping the PC is a special case where the PC who is a trained auditor will make sure that nothing significant ever comes up (and will give up innocuous withholds so that the auditor and C/S don't get suspicious). Things like the Galactic Patrol attempted mutiny by the auditors at Flag in the late 1970s are never discovered by sec checking the auditors. These things generally get exposed by inviting some weak link into the conspiracy who then runs and tells management. It is foolish and a perversion to use the E-meter as a lie detector instead of using it as a tool for helping the PC. Best, The Pilot ======================== Subj : Super Scio -To R Freeland re Splinter Groups ANSWERING RILEY FREELAND ABOUT SPLINTER GROUPS On 3 Aug 97, Riley Freeland asked: > Subject: Please provide info: > Message-ID: <33E4FBEE.43C7@physics.utexas.edu> > I need a quick list of all scientology "splinter groups". these are > groups that split from COS for some reason or another. Certainly there > is an expert here who knows. Also I would like anyone's opinion if the > popular practice called "Avatar" could be considered a Scientology > splinter. Thank you ... There are lots of them. The bulk (but not all) of the suppressive groups listed in that Flag Order that has been floating around on the net are splinter groups. Most of the splinter groups behave much better than the CofS. Many of the modern splinter groups are trying to right the wrongs while carrying the tech forward and do not practice the cultish and scam-like activities that have gotten people so upset with the CofS. Since there have been some postings about it, I will mention, for example, Alan Walter's Knowledgism. He is trying to originate new tech and so it is not pure Hubbardian, but his subject remains in accordance with the basic goals, axioms, etc. that he is carrying forward from his extensive Scientology training. There are a few posters on ARS who would like to nail his ass to the wall because he was a very active and powerful promoter of Scientology back in the 1960s and they have (possibly legitimate) gripes against him. But he is open and aboveboard and posts freequently to the alt.clearing.technology newsgroup (usually indirectly via clear-l), puts stuff up on webpages, and does not hide his theories. I have not been involved with his group, but it seems like an honest effort rather than a con-game. Then there are groups such as LaMont Johnson's Advanced Couneling Services and Valerie Stansfield's Revitalization Center which are run by old time Class VIIIs and adhere more closely to standard tech. The Ability Centers were launched by David Mayo etc. back in the early 1980s. I don't know if any are still around. The various Clear Centers are or were standard tech adherents as well. If you have been reading ARS, you probably already know about Hilderun Beer's Mountain Org. All these groups are open and aboveboard and don't play the CofS mindgames. Then there are Capt. Bill's creations such as "Ron's Org" and various other "new civilizations" groups such as Nexus. He likes to carry forward Ron's space opera ideas to what I consider to be absurd extremes (see his webpages with his teegeak and sector 9 writings). Although I have my doubts about some of their beliefs, they are nice folks and should be left alone to go about their business. When we come around to Avatar however, they are playing all the secrecy and mind games that I object to in the CofS. It was founded by an ex-Scientology mission holder and therefore I would assume it to be a splinter group, but who knows what tech they are using? Of course there is EST, which is low level Scientology mixed together with Werner Erhard's own ideas. And then there is Eckenkar, founded by Paul Twitchell based on mixing some Scientology into an old asteral walking tech which can be found in Johnson's "The Path of the Masters" of 1939. Franklin Jones was an OT and a NY org staff member before he became "The Da Avatar" and launched Daism. He seems to have copied the financial and cultish aspects of the CofS without copying the tech. I grew up in a home that was filled with what we now call New Age books. When I got into Scientology, I immediately dug around and found a copy of one of Matheson's books. His tech consisted of running processes to force the preclear's E-Meter tone arm reading up to 4.0 (or higher if possible) which was supposed to make the PC cheerful (from my experience auditing, if you manage to drive the PC's TA high, he will get tired and heavy feeling). Matheson was the Scientologist who developed the original E-meter (which was abandoned in Scientology by about 1954 until it was re-designed by Don Breeding around 1957). I don't remember what Matheson called his group. And lets not forget Jack Horner who launched various practices such as Amphinistics and Eductivism. I've hardly scratched the surface here. Take a look at Homer's website or the American Freezone website for more. There are numerous stories of OSA attacks, infiltration, and dead agenting of these groups. They have even infiltrated and harrassed non-Scientology groups such as the Objectivists. They are highly suppressive towards all potential rivals. Best, The Pilot ======================== Subj : Super Scio - ABOUT SUPER POWER ABOUT SUPER POWER There has been a lot of sales hype about super power recently and a good bit of discussion here on ARS. On Aug 5, Zenon Panoussis posted the "Super Power Rundown", which disappeared or never made it to many news servers but was still available on dejanews the last time I looked. I do not know what is on super power, but it looked accurate to me, having the right feel and style. I expect that there are missing materials (I only count 5 rather than 12 rundowns). This could well be an initial version that was significantly expanded later. And the latest version that they are planning to deliver could well be twisted out of shape for reasons which I will discuss below. As to enthusiasm among the Scientology public, it is almost zero. I checked around talking to various people on lines about "Hey I hear that they are finally going to get super power delivered" and the response is NO INTEREST. The org has promoted and recruited and collected for this one so many times since 1978 without ever delivering it that the public has gone into apathy on the subject. They think that it will be messed up again or can't be delivered or wasn't important in the first place (or else it would have been delivered already). The org might be getting a few big bucks supporters (the top FSMs and business owners who make money from the subject and fork over to keep ethics off of their backs) to contribute to this one, but they are going to be disappointed if they hope for any support from the ordinary public on org lines. In fact, the "New World Corp" was founded in 1978 to deliver super power and they recruited a lot of auditors into the Sea Org to be part of the NWC with the promise of teaching them to audit super power. Then they derailed it and had them NWC pilot the purif and the Happiness Rundown (the HRD) instead. Note that RJ30 (RON'S JOURNAL 30, 1978 - THE YEAR OF LIGHTNING FAST NEW TECH) is not confidential (obvious from the ALL PUBLIC distribution, I saw this one when it came out) but apparantly was included at the begining of the super power training pack (which IS confidential) because it gives an overview of super power and what it is supposed to do. On Aug 9, anima@xanadu.io.com (Anima) raised some interesting questions (marked >): (both my and anima's excerpts from the super power post will be marked #). > Riddle me this: How come none of the punters ever notice that the > promises they were made before the course are NOT fulfilled when they > finish the course? If the actual result was good and desirable, they put up with the fact that it is less than what was promised. Many Scientologists know that everything is promoted as being "beyond your wildest dreams" and know that the reality will fall short. But there is a "hope factor" as well. As long as the Scientologist feels that he is making progress and discovering new things, he is willing to put aside his disapointment at, let's say, continuing to need glasses, in the expectation that he will handle that when he gets far enough along. But if they mess him up or bog him down with unnecessary and undesirable actions such as sec checks and wrong ethics conditions, and he doesn't get any results or see some forward progress, he is liable to become disaffected. This is a major reason why they lose members. > I mean, it really DOES seem like bait and switch, where they > promise you the ability to communicate with anyone better and demand you > stop talking to those who say, "you're not communicating as well now as > you used to." It is worse than this. Running somebody on the grade zero processes really does improve people's ability to communicate. Nowhere near as absolute as they promise, but still a significant gain. So they start talking to their parents again. Big improvement. They are happy about this. But their parents are worried about the guy's involvment with Scientology so they ask some real pertinent questions that the PC has trouble with. So he goes back to the org and repeats those questions. The org sends him to Ethics and tells him to disconnect from his parents who he is now finally able to communicate with again! In many cases the org (or at least some of its staff) can't face the problems that come up when the PCs really do start communicating freely and openly again. The PCs push their buttons, they talk back, they ask difficult questions and become troublesome. An org where most of the staff members are trained auditors doesn't have trouble with this. But that hasn't existed since the 1960s, current staff don't know the tech and are afraid of it. So the org must GET THE PC TO SHUT UP AGAIN. They only want him to be able to talk to his auditor and to announce his withholds, they don't want him really communicating freely. So the staff, and especially ethics, keeps handling him until he clams up again. Its like giving a little kid ten bucks and then pulling it right back out of his hand and saying "this has to go in your college fund". There is a special place in hell for people who do this. > If so, then colds and eyeglasses, asthma and forgetfulness should all be > notably absent in $cientology, right? I wish. I have had one cold disappear dramatically in session while being run through an engram. It was like throwing a switch. Really embarrassing. All the mucus fell out of my nose like opening a water faucet. I had to drop the cans and grab some tissues. I have also had some few colds simmer down (not dramatically) when they were handled. And I have had plenty of assists where you kind of feel better about it but nothing really changes physically. I have had many colds before and since. I still get colds despite having audited everything in the book, although maybe I get less than I used to (but this is subjective). I know people who have gotten rid of their glasses in auditing. I know many more who haven't. There is no common denominator as to what process will do this, it just happens on rare occasions. The whole subject is like that. Rare but dramatic results and no guarantee of what will or wouldn't be handled. Supported by bullshit PR where you show off the one guy who did recover from a withered arm and ignore the fact that the same process doesn't cure anybody else with that condition (you blame it on their out-ethics or a failure to apply standard tech). This is why I feel that the research is terribly incomplete and object to all the false PR despite knowing that the tech can produce results and beliving that everything can be handled eventually if we persist in finding out things. # The end phenomenon for the Super Power Rundown is a being who has # regained the super powers of infinity. > What can these words possibly mean? after you do the SPR to get to the EP > you have a being-- let that one pass; at least it isn't a "beingness." Be > grateful for small favors. A being who has regained (gained again, gained > back, re-acquired what once was had and then was not had until this > "regain")- here it is, ya got a being who now has (again) THE SUPER POWERS > OF INFINITY. > > WTF does that mean? Me, I'm so stupid I didn't even realize that infinity > had powers, only properties. I mean, infinity is infinity but it doesn't > DO anything the way the ocean, for example, washes back and forth. Would > anyone actually take a course like this without knowing what super powers > they were supposed to regain? Okay, then, what ARE some of them? Are they > like, "the ability to communicate with anyone" or like, "the ability to > move mountains and reorganize maps by adjusting the landscape"? The "super powers of infinity" is just Hubbardese for being super-duper infinitly powerful. That should be obvious from reading the process commands which are basically "get the idea of being infinitely powerful" done on many flows and with the Be/Do/Have triangle worked into it (note that 'GIVE' is a doingness). Hubbard was simply fond of oddball phraseology. So am I for that matter. Sometimes it makes somebody stop and think. But this super duper infinity process is just icing on the cake. The coaches run it all the time on football players. It works too. But only until the person smashes into the next wall. In other words, it is a confidence builder because it doesn't really do much to raise the person's horsepower. Here is some meek character, for example, and he's been told that he doesn't have any power and that he'd better be good or they'll bash his head in. Now you have him mock up being super powerful. He'll go charging out of there like hell on wheels and it will work until he's stopped by something. You see this used and working all the time in society. Drill sargents also like to use this one (of course they don't call it processing, they just tell their guys "now you are mean and tough and super powerful and you'd better go out there and kick some ass"). But you've actually missed the real rundown. It is the one given in number 3, called the "Ethics Repair List". I'll just quote a few of the questions. # 41. Have you ever been punished for disagreeing with someone? # 42. Have you ever caused another to be punished for disagreeing with you? # 43. Have others caused others to be punished for disagreeing? # 44. Have you caused yourself to be punished for disagreeing? # 65. Has anyone ever caused you an injustice? # 66. Have you ever caused another an injustice? # 67. Have others ever caused others an injustice? # 68. Have you ever caused yourself an injustice? # 73. Have you lied to yourself about others? # 74. Have you lied to yourself about family? # 75. Have you lied to yourself about groups? # 76. Have you lied to yourself about mankind? # 113. Have you ever been manipulated? # 114. Have you ever manipulated another? # 115. Have others ever manipulated others? # 116. Have you caused yourself to be manipulated? # 161. Has anyone ever made you do anything evil? # 162. Have you ever made anyone else do anything evil? # 163. Have others ever made others do anything evil? # 164. Have you ever made yourself do anything evil? # 217. Have you ever been given a false law? # 218. Have you ever given another a false law? # 219. Have others ever given others any false laws? # 220. Have you caused yourself any false laws? One of the things is that this is NOT A Sec Check. It is not actionable by Ethics. It is not run accusatively as a sec check would be. It is to be run by simple two way comm and going earlier. Two way comm means that you get the guy talking about the area. You ask him what happened, what he did, what he decided, and you get him trying to spot and identify things. And you just keep it up, getting him talking and observing what really happened until the meter FNs. It is not accusative and it is not evaluative and there is no leagle way (if you follow the auditors code) to force the PC to see it the way that you think he is supposed to see it. And you run this on every question that reacts in that list of 224 questions. And I would assume that it is to be taken to an FNing list (as are all repair lists) which means that you start over again from the top and keep doing it over and over again until the entire list just FNs. There have been some ARS postings asking for Scientologists to answer various embarrassing questions. This is the auditing rundown that will make them face those questions. Can you imagine running the above questions on somebody like David Miscaviage or Ron's Amigo? And having a lie detector on them while you do it? And going over the whole thing again and again until they face up to everything? And can you imagine running this on some staff member to the point where they start realizing the various fuckups in Policy and Flag Orders are "false laws"? If they did this process right, if they sent a team to an org and ran everybody on it without figuring out some way to screw this process up, they really would salvage the org and straigten out Scientology, because the staff would wake up and realize WTF they were doing. But the side effect would be that the org would go into open rebellion, disobeying stupid order and distructive policies, and probably even physically ejecting Sea Org missionaries (sent to handle them) off of the premises. I know from experience. Once back in the old days, when things were only half bad, I ran a processes known as a "disagreements check" on another staff member. We found the thing about the org that he most disagreed with and we did a bit of two way comm on the item found. He got to talk about the thing (I forget the exact point and shouldn't discuss his case in detail anyway) and got his confront up on it and felt much better and ended up with a big grin on his face and a big FN on the emeter. Now he knew that auditing worked, and he wanted to get the org really working right, and he was feeling good and had lots of confidence as far as being able to fix things. In other words the auditing worked. When he got out of session, he sounded a lot like like Hilderun Beer sounds nowardays. Of course he tried to fix things. He was declared suppressive inside of a month. And that was on only FNing one question in this area rather than two hundred of them. The proper abbreviation for this rundown would be SP#3 (Super Power number 3). The state attained by running it is probably also SP3, as defined by the ARSCC which doesn't exist. In other words, unless Scientology totaly changes its operating basis, this rundown would make people that would almost immedately be declared SP by current org practices. If run on an entire org, the org would probably turn into a splinter group within a month. Now that wouldn't happen with some public person who has never been on staff and doesn't know policy and only runs the questions against his own business. But a staff member couldn't get through this without blowing apart the stupidity and fanaticism that is rampant in the orgs. Now we know why they have never delivered this rundown. They probably piloted it on a few people back in 1978 and found that they had to kick their teeth in with ethics or even declare them suppressive afterwards. So they have probably been looking for "bugs" in the rundown, to fix it so that it doesn't make rebels. Maybe they have finally "fixed" it. Perhaps they replaced this process with some cheep shit rundown. Or they could screw it up by making it into a Sec Check and hounding the person in ethics until he got back into agreement. Or maybe they now make the PC do endless clay demos about how important it is to protect the org and defend policy even if it is fucked up. In the old days, there was another rundown on the subject of organization which was in use very briefly. It was issued as the first step of the Org Exec Course (OEC) when it first came out in 1967. I had it run at that time and it was just fabulous. Various listing actions on whole track groups, clay table clearing, overt handling, etc. all on the subject of organization. But things weren't so bad then, at least in the outer orgs. The prices were low, there were not a lot of false promises, there were not a lot of fixed ideas, and the ethics conditions had not been jammed down our throats yet. So the main result initially, at least for me, was that I stopped taking things like "stats" as important and literal rules and started thinking. So I'd never do this idiocy of trying to get the stats up but instead would look for reasons why etc. Interestingly enough, treating it this way (and not going crazy because the stats were down) generally put my stats into power. But the Sea Org and Saint Hill were already in the grips of the madness that would hit the outer orgs in 1968. I think that the people who were run on this there started going into rebellion and becoming sources of trouble. Because they cancelled this rundown almost immediately. The HCOB said that it was a destructive process, guaranteed to cave anybody in who was run on it. And I can tell you for sure that it was a great rundown and the people who got it did exceptionally well. So why was it cancelled and dead agented unless it was causing real trouble. It made rebels, so it had to be tossed and discredited as fast as possible. If I had had this run again in 1968 when the Sea Org missions and Class 8 graduates were hanging everybody, or if I had had the SP#3 process run, or any similar thing which really let me step back and take a look at the mess around me, I would probably have started picketing the org with a sign about "Class 8 tech is destroying Scientology". It was that bad. If I sound a bit pissed, it is because I am. They have taken my religion, and it really is my religion, and turned it into garbage and scamishness. I really do wish that they'd get straightened out already. Is there anybody out there who has had any experience with Super Power pilot programs or knows anything about what really kept the NWC from delivering it? Or anyone else who has experience with the old 1967 OEC rundown? Or anybody who gave or recieved a "disagreement check" at a time when two way comm was used instead of trying to find the earlier group that the PC had supposedly gotten confused with Scientology (in other words, it couldn't really be Scientology that was at fault, so the PC must be mixing it up with some other group and you look for that). I would be very interested in hearing any ex-staffmembers information in these areas. I think that any process which actually cleaned up a staff member's mental charge on the group and allowed him to see the org clearly would result in the staff member becoming a revolutionary. Best, The Pilot ======================== Subj : Super Scio - TO SASSIE10 (or Ron's Amigo) TO SASSIE10 It is about time that we talked. We have similar goals concerning freeing mankind, making the able more able, and clearing the planet. We both believe that auditing works. Since we are both keeping our real identities secret, we might even be personal friends. But I suspect that you might be shuddering in horror at what I'm doing, considering me to be some kind of squirrel and suppressive. And I look at your posts and think of PR bullshit and blind fanaticism. I'm willing to square off and defend my postion in a dialog with you here on the net. Of course I'll be trying to wake you up and get you to start thinking. And you'll be trying to get me to see the errors of my ways and bring me back into the fold before I do any more damage. If you haven't already done so, you should read "The Scientology Reformer's Home Page" and/or "The Org's Grades Are Out" which can be found on "The Pilot's Home Page" and other websites (see the URLs below), so that you know where I'm coming from. Neither of these contain any confidential materials, so you can read them without getting in trouble with ethics even if you haven't done your OT levels. I also promise not to mention the contents of any OT levels in any messages that I address to you specifically (I don't generally believe in keeping things confidential, but I'll respect your beliefs in this case). So how about it? Even if you can't handle me, maybe you can draw some fence sitting lurkers back in. I will keep my eye out for a post from you mentioning "The Pilot". And if Ron's Amigo is still around, I will happily offer him the same challenge. ARC, The Pilot ======================== Subj : Super Scio - Re OT Powers (answering Lee Reynolds) ANSWERING LEE REYNOLDS ABOUT OT POWERS On 16 July, leereyno@imap2.asu.edu posted > Subject: Can OT's influence other people's minds? > Message-ID: <5qi7ve$cjv@news.asu.edu> > This question is going to make me sound like a complete nutcase. I'm > asking this question because of a research paper I'm writing for english > class. Ever since I started I don't seem to be able to think as well as > usual, especially when it comes to the paper. So what I'm wondering is > if anyone knows of reported claims that an OT can get in the way of > another person's thought processes. This isn't a joke. I will be > sitting writing and come up with an idea and have it disappear just as > quickly, which never happens otherwise. Maybe some of the OT's here can > shed some light on this because it's getting irritating and more than a > little scary. How do I combat this if it is occuring? God I must sound > like a nut! I'm about 40 years too young to have Alzheimer's disease. > > Lee Reynolds > Claims to OT powers are often greatly exaggerated. Going around attacking people and zapping them telepathically and behaving badly in generally are good ways to cause your OT powers to turn off. I might have occasionally influenced somebody telepathically. If so, then it was always somebody closely involved with me where there was already an existing comm line. In other words, it might have been things like getting an ethics officer to leave me alone or a watress to wake up and come over with coffee. That's about as good as it gets with the shabby level of OT processing currently used in Scientology. Also, it is one thing to get somebody to do what they should be doing anyway or passing along a communication that they would want to receive. It is a different matter overriding somebody's willpower. If we are all sleeping gods, then an attack is liable to trigger subconcious defenses. What you are describing would not only require high powered projective telepathy but would also require the ability to notice and focus in on somebody that the OT did not know and did not have any physical comm line with. I'm not saying that these things are imposible, I do believe in telepathy and I've seen enough to prove it to my own satisfaction (although I don't have hard evidence for proving it to other people). And I certainly don't think that you are a nut case for worrying about this. But in this case its like worrying about primitive tribesmen having nuclear weapons. There are other possible reasons for impared thinking in this area. The simplest explanation might be that there are so many unusual words in the materials that it has made you a bit foggy due to misunderstood words. If this is the case, try looking at some of the web sites that have definitions of Scientology terms. Another possibility is that the subject matter itself is disturbing because it is making you look more deeply into yourself. And Hubbard has suggested that there are old hypnotic implants (in past lives in earlier high tech civilizations) that were laid in to attempt to block efforts to understand the mind or research this area. These things all yield to persistance and determination. If you keep on with it, you will push through whatever is in the way and cease having this trouble. That would even be true if there was some super OT mucking around with you. The more you succeed in carrying forward in your efforts, the less you will be stopped. In other words, as you continue to succeed, you get stronger and whatever is stopping you will get weaker. Hope this helps, The Pilot ======================== Subj : Super Scio - TO DAVID MISCAVIAGE TO DAVID MISCAVIAGE To The OSA Lurkers: Please pass this uplines to Mr. David Miscaviage. Thanks, The Pilot ------------ Dear David, You might be a bit annoyed at me because of my recent post "Davy the Missing Savage". If so, then let me indicate the bypassed charge. But it was more than just making fun at your expense. There was a subtle message which I think you need to receive. The message is that it is very easy to blame you for all the wrongs in the orgs. There was only one voice who took exception to my post, and that was an anti called Alec. He thought that the mess was started by Ron and you only inherited a bad situation. But that was an anti. None of the loyalists are going to blame Ron for anything. I know better because I was around in the old days and I saw troubles back in the 1960s, long before you were in power. But most Scientologists don't go back that far. They will happily blame you rather than learning to think about tech and policy. I have one word for you, and I think that you had better pay attention. The word is SCAPEGOAT. I don't want this to happen. I want real reforms. If they blame it all on you and declare you and your cronies, all that will happen is that a worse bunch will take over and continue the dramatization. I saw this kind of thing happen back in the late 1960s when quickies were destroying the subject and nobody could question the tech, so it was always the fault of SPs in the organization. Entire exec councils were declared and each set was worse than the one before it. It only stopped when the tech was revised, replacing the quickies with expanded grades. You might think that you can hold your postion by force and by leagal means, but you really should know better. The membership has watched people like Reg Sharp, Otto Roos, and David Mayo get declared. It would not be hard for them to swallow another story of an SP at the top. And your stats are not exactly good. And you are surrounded by fanatics who have been trained to ignore the law and common sense and make it go right no matter what. If enough of them agree that you are THE SP, it wouldn't matter what the law says, they'll get you out of there by whatever means. I'm sure you know how it works. Look at how easily the Brokers were trashed. It hardly matters what the real truth is in a case like this. They will create "reality" by agreement and it will turn out that "you forged everything". Once they do their GPM flip flop, your life will be dreck. Remember Fair Game? Now you just might have a pile of bucks salted away in someplace like Lichenstein. If so, that guarantees that they will go after you to reclaim it. And if not, then you'll be out on the street with no resources to help you hide. Either way, what they do to you will be orders of magnitude beyond the tactics used against the antis and freezone. Because you will be "The Man Who Almost Destroyed Scientology". Every real or imagined bad thing in the last 15 years will be blamed on you. And the good stuff (like handling the IRS), will be attributed to others because an SP wouldn't have done them. They'll hunt you down like the Jews hunt the old Nazis. When they find you in a neighborhood, it will be like those cases where an ex-con who raped and murderered children is found to be living somewhere. Your life will be one continual missed withhold. You know this can happen. David Mayo went from being the senior CS and technical savior and a movie star in the tech films, to being the evil squirrel who perverted NOTs and was in the pay of the psychs and drove your mother-in-law to commit suicide. And it happened fast! You can smell it in the wind and only a fool would ignore it. The hatred you engendered is comming back full circle. You have a tiger by the tail. Your only hope is to calm him down, teach him to be a vegetarian, and back away slowly. Look at the points for reform that I have been promoting. An organzation that operated along those lines could forgive and forget and would florish and prosper as well. This planet does need Scientology. Preferably a reformed and sane Scientology. It does not need another organization full of fanatics busily purging and crucifying each other and paying lip service to a lost technology that they do not understand. Act now while you have the chance. ARC (meant in truth, not in sarcasm), The Pilot ======================== Subj : Super Scio Humor - Scientology Jokes SCIENTOLOGY JOKES As I mentioned in Chapter 1 of the Super Scio book, there was a good bit of joking before the "Jokers and Degraders" policy came out. There is still some although it is a bit suppressed. I mentioned a few in the book and I recognize a few of the ones that have been posted recently (the one about getting the waiters attention must have a dozen variation, as does changing the light bulb). There is an old classic in joke among the clearing course students. You would have to be familiar with the clearing course instruction booklet to get it. It goes something like: What do you tell a preacher when he says "I seen the light"? Answer: you tell him to spot the thetan. There was a polish joke (my appologies - I know there are famous Polish scientists etc.): How many Poles does it take to audit a PC? Seven. One to hold the e-meter and 6 to be greater than the PC's bank. There was a drawing of a guy with his head up his ass labled "solo TR0". There was a bogus list of auditing commands to be used in Scotland. The only one I remember was "Would you be looking at that wall, mon?". There used to be great parodies of Scientology tech used in TR 0 bullbaiting between auditors. For example: "Now we are going to do an assessment. Asshole? Cocksucker? Motherfucker? I'd like to indicate that the largest read is on Asshole. Would you like to attest to being an asshole?". Then there was the girl who attested to "The State of Texas" at the AO. She got announced and everything. Everybody in reception applauded. On staff, writing something up in the proper detail and covering various specified points is called a "CSW" for "Completed Staff Work". When financial planning failed to allocate enough money for purchasing toilet paper one month, a CSW was written that was so gross and hilarious that it circulated broadly among the staff and students. It started by identifying the major target of purchasing toilet paper ("to keep asses clean") and went on from there. Then theres the one about the sea org recruit who says he can't drive the Manor bus and his senior yells at him to "make it go right". So he turns that way and crashes into the wall. - The Pilot ======================== Subj : Super Scio - The Valley-Burbank Org THE VALLEY/BURBANK ORG This place deserves the foot bullet of the year award. It does more to drive people out of Scientology than most pickets. You should send them donations to help them stay in business so that they can drive more people away and into the freezone. It has what is called an "ARC Broken field" which means that it has gotten its public so pissed off that they stay away and act like antis. First off, its proper name is The Valley Org. The dividing line between the Valley (Studio City, Encino, North Hollywood, etc.) and Burbank is only a political boundary (Burbank is a separate city and the valley is part of LA). Its a ten minute drive over the mountains north of Hollywood. The area is famous for Valley Girls, Universal City, and the expression "Fur Shure". Physically it is the San Fernando Valley. At one time there was a prosperous series of missions (I think that there were about 5 of them) in this north LA area. Then SMI wrecked them (1980 timeframe) to form the Valley org and also, I think, a Burbank org which promptly collapsed and was merged into the Valley org. Although the org was only a shadow of the mission network it replaced, the valley is a big prosperous area and they did manage to make one good org there which at least had a decent reputation and could deliver services. Until, that is, the PAC order which offloaded any SO members with childern, sending them to outer orgs. The result was that a bunch of SO members took over and began driving the org into the ground. This included the ED (executive director of the org). They managed to lose most of their technical staff, pissing them off and driving them away by one stupid order after another. According to one ex-staff member (not disaffected with Scientology in general), they were sitting there with about a hundred thousand dollars worth of auditing hours paid for but not delivering and instead of trying to deliver anything, the orders were continually to sell more to get the income up with no interest in actually delivering anything. I heard not one but two different stories from people who had tried to use them as a place to get a friend or relative started in Scientology. In both cases, the person I talked to had gone to great lengths to determine the exact right starting courses that really got the new person excited and got them to pay for it and start on course at the Valley org. And valley had no technical staff and couldn't really deliver and found some way to get the person off of course (because they had no resources) and then tried to sell them expensive services (which also could not be delivered) and hounded them and ended up getting them so pissed off that they want nothing more to do with Scientology. The place is almost deserted. While driving by the Burbank location one Saturday a few years ago, a bunch of us decided go in and look around (being OTs, we were not thier prospective public and could avoid being reged - which means being hounded by the registrars). The ED himself came rushing down to run the bookstore for us (he didn't manage to sell us anything - too slimy). But it was a beautiful location and very nicely fixed up. Its one of the few areas in the Valley that has upscale foot traffic. They were crazy to let it go. They told their public that they were moving to get more space. But I heard that there there was a huge unused area in the back of the Burbank location. Apparently they had made a short term low rent deal when they moved in originally. Probably the lease had expired and they moved rather than pay more money. I have not been to the new location, but it is further north, does not have foot traffic, and its near the area on Sepulveda where people go to pick up hookers. Rumor has it that it is smaller and that all the endless work to build auditing rooms etc. has to be repeated. The old Burbank location would be ideal for a freezone org if they were not afraid of getting harrassed by people driving up from the complex. ======================== Subj : Super Scio - To M Richter about Clears ANSWERING MICHAEL RICHTER ABOUT CLEARS ETC. On 12 Jul 97, "Michael T. Richter" asked > Subject: Question for The Pilot (and any other Scientologists reading this): Clearing > Message-ID: <01bc8ef0$74981370$525c7018@retrotech> > I have been looking over your web pages on Michael Voytinsky's site. I > have a question for you, based upon some of the contents. > > In Dianetics, the concept of a "clear" is cited. Clears have many > miraculous powers including, among many others, total recall. Yet every > clear I have met so far has failed a simple test along the lines of "What > is the subject matter of chapter in Dianetics?". Considering that I, a > mere wog, could easily memorize the chapter headings of Dianetics given a > few minutes' effort, I'm interested in why none of the clears, with their > supposedly perfect memories, can do so? Unfortunately true. The claims about Clear are greatly exaggerated, which I have been saying all along (see chapter 1 of Super Scio for example). Throughout the 1950s and early 1960s, the original definition of Clear was known to be off base because the existance of whole track (past life) engrams meant that nobody was ever going to run through all of them. It was obvious that whatever "clears" had been made in 1950s Dianetics, they did not match the textbook definitions because they hadn't even recalled any of their past lives. So the definition was pretty much abandoned or used as a curtesy title for somebody who was advanced in the subject. But something did happen when the person confronted enough pain and force in mental pictures. Suddenly the person would stop flinching at painful things in their past and would feel much better as a result. The person's thinking was no longer distorted by avoiding old long gone pains. This was the 1958 redefinition of clear. It is valid state, easily attained, and quite desirable. This is the actual State of Clear produced by the Clearing Course or Dianetics when it is done right. It does not include such grandious things as total recall or freedom from abberation. But it is a wonderful state none-the-less. When Scientology became so sales and money oriented in the late 1960s, this real definition of Clear was not good enough to bring in big bucks for quickie services. So Ron put back the original bogus definition and issued a policy making it a suppressive act to invalidate the state of clear. And any real discussion of the limitations would be an invalidation. So we have a built in misunderstood word, so to speak. This is one of the many things that need to be fixed in the subject. As far as memorizing chapter titles, I probably could do that but it would be cheating. And we both would fail the test if the questioner swiched to a different book that we hadn't worked on. My memory did improve when I went clear. If somebody is backing away from painful incidents in their past, they will be less willing to remember things. So of course they remember things at least a bit better once they are no longer afraid that they might accidentally recall something that they they would rather forget. One of the big problems in Scientology is separating the sales hype from the real gains. There is a lot of PR and wishful thinking. And yet I have made fantastic gains, helped others, and occasionally even seen impossible things happen. A lot of it is subjective, or would be hard to prove under laboratory conditions. And unfortunately, that leaves the door open for all sorts of unreal BS that is hard to disprove. > You claim tech works. Please, explain this to me in light of the claims > for tech. (Non-confronts will be treated as evidence of the tech not > working.) Now I'm not sure which claims you are referring to. And we have the additional problem of sales hype claims which I also think are crap, and the real stuff that I have seen and believe in. You would actually have to try some processes to see if they actually worked and were of any benefit. Since I doubt that you want to pay any bucks or put yourself in the hands of an auditor, I'll explain a simple process that you can try by yourself. This is officially called a "contact assist". It is very simple and useful and easily done solo. If you hurt yourself, there is a tendency to flinch from that spot mentally and since the body tends to obey the mind, there will also be some inhibition to the circulation and healing forces because you are pulling back. If you simply duplicate the action that hurt you, doing it slowly and safely with the same objects in the same location a few times, this will overcome the mental flinch. Of course you cool down a hot surface, or blunt or protect against anything sharp, etc. So let us say that you happen to stub your toe. In most cases, the toe keeps hurting for a little while, often surprisingly long considering that there is no significant damage, and there also seems to be an awful tendency to stub the same toe again a little later. To overcome this, you slowly swing your foot and lightly touch the exact point you collided with a few times. Suddenly you get a momentary sharp pain as the incident comes into view and releases and then the pain is really gone. And you don't keep stubbing the same toe over and over again. Or, for example, you touch a hot surface and burn your finger. Now you cool the surface off (turn off the stove, wipe it down with a wet rag until it is cool, etc.). Then slowly repeate the action that got you burned a few times. This can often alieviate the annoying pain of a minor burn, and it might even keep it from blistering (no guarantees, but it does seem to help, and its free). Of course you do any necessary first aid first. Don't stand there doing a contact assist with a sharp knife while you bleed all over the carpet. And don't expect miracles. But it really does help. Try it and see. This process is also called a "Touch Back" in modern Scientology slang. ---- The absolute claims are almost always false. The wild and impossible things do happen occasionally, but only on a sporatic basis. OT powers do exist, but only as crazy one shot occurances, they have never made a stable OT. I am probably as far along as anybody they've got. I'm a trained auditor, have done old and new OT7, have been in the subject for many decades, have studied and run the vast amount of material from the 1950s, and have been trying to push the research further on my own. I have tons of stories. Not one of them is repeatable. Any one occurance could be discounted and might be due to mis-perception or wishful thinking or pure random chance. But this stuff has happened to me enough that I do not doubt that there is an interaction between people and the physical universe at a mental level. Often the events could be explained by telepathy, but occasionally physical objects are involved as well. Once, for example, I seemed to be swamped with problems. My car was leaking break fluid and I was opening the cylinder and pouring it in twice a day hoping to make it to the weekend. And the overhead light in my apartment's dinning room had been broken for a month and the management wasn't bothering to fix it. And there were a whole bunch of other little things with work etc. Something happened at work that was the last straw (I don't even remember what it was anymore). So I sat down and ran a problems process on myself (it might have been mocking up problems of comparable magnitude) and suddenly realized why I was pulling in so many problems (if I remember right, I was making the org wrong for some sort of stupid mishandling they had done on me). I felt better and things straightened out immediately at work and I felt like all the problems had evaporated. When I tried to pour in more break fluid, the car didn't need it. The leak was gone and didn't reappear. When I got home, my ceiling fixture had been changed and was working. All maybe just random luck. Or maybe something else. But that was a one shot occurance. I am not total cause over breaking systems. I still use auto mechanics. Another example was a time that I was getting some coffee to go from a resturant. Somebody at the counter was drinking a 7-up and I suddenly had this urge to have one myself. But I knew that I would want the coffee and I felt it would be silly to order both. So when the waitress came over, I only ordered a coffee. She turned around and drew a cup of 7-UP and handed it to me. I said "what's this?" and she said, "I drew it by mistake, you might as well have it". But again this is a one shot deal. I sometimes have trouble getting a waitress to bring over what she is supposed to nothing to say of getting telepathic freebies. But I'm very leary right now of saying too much and pushing people into the orgs. The odds right now are that somebody would spend a fortune and probably get mis-handled and not even make the gains that I have. Let me instead encourage people to study the tech on their own and perhaps to write letters to the org saying something like "I wish that you would straighten out your behaviour and lower your prices so that I could get involved without feeling guilty, getting mistreated, or going bankrupt". The orgs are a very bad example of Scientology. They very rarely apply the tech. For example, they tend to suppress free communication instead of encouraging it. > -- > Michael T. Richter mrichter@rogers.wave.ca http://www.igs.net/~mtr/ > "Listen as the syllables of slaughter cut in calm precision." I do think that Scientology is important and is needed. But if a true believer in the tech such as myself who has made fantastic gains and seen the tech work cannot honestly encourage people to run into their nearest org, then there is something very very wrong with the orgs. Viva la revolution, The Pilot ======================== The following trailer was put on these posts: See the "SCIENTOLOGY REFORMER'S HOME PAGE" by the Pilot at http://wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de/~krasel/CoS/pilot.html or http://www.igs.net/~michaelv/scnreform.htm or The Pilots Home Page at http://super.zippo.com/~freezone/pilot/index.htm Get the Pilot materials (the 32 part SUPER SCIO book) at: ftp://wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de/pub/ss/index.html or pick up the ss## files from Homer's archive at lightlink.com. Or search dejanews http://www.dejanews.com/ either for "Super Scio" or for all pilot postings to ARS or ACT using, for example: ~a (The Pilot) & ~g (alt.religion.scientology) ------------------